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oldskool · Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 98

AS ABOVE... SENSIBLE MONEY PAID FOR THE RIGHT PUP... I CAN TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN THE NORTH/SOUTH IRELAND... BOTH PARENTS TO BE SEEN IF POSSIBLE... aiming for a rough coated pup

oldskool · Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 98

tassagh · New Member Joined: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 16

Good luck with this old skool, you've a hard task ahead of you. My mate has a full wheaten terrier used for drawing and i was thinking of crossing him to a greyhound bitch but the half cross have no foot and won't catch bolted foxes. I would need to breed this litter then breed a pup out of the litter again to get a racey wheaten x and this would take years. Dunno if its worth the hassle

oldskool · Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 98

i would have thought they would have been as quick as any other half cross??? i have a greyhound bitch but she isnt too good at the fox game so i wasnt goin to breed from her... others think it doesnt matter whether she can pull foxes or not as long as she's healthy and strong... i'm not sure, i reckon if your after a fox dog then it helps if both parents are capable of fox, does it not?? to be honest i'd aim for a 3/4grey 1/4 wheaten too... i think they make a better all round sort of dog... i get alot of tossers trying to sell pups that are supposed to be this way and that way bred but they dont fit the bill and i'm hard to please

whitser · Member Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 26

a first cross will take foxes no bother. i would breed my own if i was you. get a real game wheaten stud and put him across your hound bitch.
it would be better if your hound took foxes but how many greyhounds would take a fox single handed?
there is a lot of chancers breeding lurchers who'll tell you that parents are fox dogs but very few do them single handed and regularly.

tassagh · New Member Joined: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 16

Whitser, i put some pics up on the running dogs section on thl.. F.A.O Whitser, just a couple of pics of the hounds. A half cross can be a unbelievable draw dog. I have worked with half crosses before and a tricky fox that can play tricks in an open field will give a half cross wheaten problems. I agree with whitser on the greyhound aspect of things, never even heard of a greyhound doin a fox and i don't think it matters as long as you get a hard wheaten. I was always told too much greyhound in a dog is a bad thing as the greyhound is yella as fcuk.... If you need a full wheaten to breed too i know where you'll get a first class one and you could see him work

oldskool · Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 98

i used to have a greyhound bitch about 8 or 9 years a go that could have taken foxes well but she was hit by a car and now i kinda measure greyhound bitches to her... i'm thinkin i might take a chance on her because nearly everyone says the same about greyhounds... drawing would only be a small part of what i would use a lurcher for so i would be aiming to breed something more for lamping and coursing... a lad sniper on the THL had a crackin 3/4 bred dog (you can see it in his gallery) and i would be aiming to breed that kind of dog