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haresanybody got any hotspots for hares in the leinster area?
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Pheasantplucker
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Brown or Irish hares?,is their a large population of Brown hares in Eire?
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DitchShitter
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| Pheasantplucker wrote: | | Is their a large population of Brown hares in Eire? |
I don't know how large the Irish population of Brown's is, PP. But I saw one here in Leitrim and was then told they're only supposed to have been found down in the deep south.
So, working on the basis that they've apparrantly spread themselves this far? I'd suggest there may well be quite a few of them by now.
Saying that; This one was five miles from here. Outside my own door, on my own ground, I see plenty of Irish Hares but no Browns.
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JDF
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don't know about population but i'd think theres pockets of them all over,there's certainly some here in the north.
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DitchShitter
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Hmmm ..... What ye reckon then, JDF? Are they spreading naturally to these " pockets "? Or have they ~ * Cough * ~ 'Done a Bristol' ?
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macker
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a fair few in dublin too
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JDF
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| Ditch Shitter wrote: | | Hmmm ..... What ye reckon then, JDF? Are they spreading naturally to these " pockets "? Or have they ~ * Cough * ~ 'Done a Bristol' ? |
introduced DS,back when we had large sporting estates owned by the gentry lol,that's the case in the place i'm thinking of anyhow,it's a nature reserve now! the wardens from said reserve have assured me that they know of other places were they are.so have others whose intentions would be different.it was suggested elsewhere that these are lower quality than our own irish hare due to small gene pool.
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DitchShitter
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| JDF wrote: |
Introduced, back when we had large sporting estates owned by the gentry |
Damn! Now That's interesting. JDF! Just so happens that I saw 'my' Brown not a course or two from the very site of a 'Big House' that ~ as I understand it ~ once stood here in this part of Co. Leitrim!
I honestly don't know if the last residents were Irish or some brit Lord or what ever. But is sure as hell smacks of something, doesn't it?
I'll ask around mate. Local people here know the score with most things and my bar is the local Field Sports fraternities watering hole anyway.
Ye've got me intrigued now!
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ivanthehunter
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i know where there are plenty of hares you can drive right up to them they dont mind the car as long as you dont stop for more than a few seconds
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DitchShitter
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Look at that. I was intrigued eight f*cking months ago. Now I'm simply more nonplussed than ever! I even have an Irish guy whose Dogs knock over hares and rabbits for a pass time and He doesn't know a Brown Hare from and Irish!
Just to compound things; My local is shut down for a rehaul. Has been for months. So the guys potentially in the know are now splashed to the four winds - and dozen pubs - in town. I don't get to talk to any of them now except for chance meetings.
No way will I kill a hare on my ground. My neighbours frown on such a notion anyway. But dear lord; I'd 'Kill' to get a decent examination of some of them!
I know the Brown Hare extremely well. I just want to familiarise myself better with these, seemingly, shorter eared, brown furred, brown eyed (?) Irish ones.
Anyone got photo's of hares from Eire, please? I'm thinking of starting a Folder of comparative studies. Try to get my head round this.
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Sean
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found this ditch, it will keep you reading for hours tho lol http://www.ehsni.gov.uk/irishharegeneticsreport.pdf
might be worth a gander? and also this http://www.irishhare.org/
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ivanthehunter
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Better late than never
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DitchShitter
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Sean! That PDF was f*cking amazing! Thankyou! it's taught me more about the Irish Hare than most people will ever bloody know! Really quite incredible!
As it happens; I popped it open the day ye posted it and sat here and read / digested it there and then. Only that's when my Lap Top sort of coughed, farted and started breathing its last. Which it's been doing ever since then and hence I've been away for so many days now. I've had to strip everything out and rebuild it as a skeleton. Only got back to this place 'tonight., look.
But anyway, yeppers; That really was a cracking read. Did ye see how full of praise for the Irish Coursing Club it is too? And that an official, government doccument! Bottom line is that without those Coursing lads moving the hares about the place, before and after Coursing them, we'd probably have less hares and a more homogenous gene pool than we have now, by far!
That other, lower, link though? I didn't even bother, mate. Seen that lot before. Load of bunny hugging f*cking Anti's with that lots typical complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the very subject they've set up their rather pathetic little site to go on about it on.
You read it properly: Patently obvious the whole lot's been hashed up from a warm arm chair somewhere. Those f*cking idiots most likely have never even SEEN a bloody Irish Hare!
Either way, one thing's for certain: They're sure as hell not spending the time in the field and making the general effort to grasp an understanding of the creatures that I am! Not by a long mark they're not.
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Sean
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ditch, they were just the results of a google search, didnt have a look at them myself.
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DitchShitter
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Sean; I reccomend the PDF, mate. It's a belter! In fact, looking back, I now remember I was quoting from it only today! And that was as part of me discussing Irish Hares with a native Irishman.
He, in all honesty, knew nothing about them other than they were out there. Myself I found pointing out quite a bit of newly assimmilated facts about them. Without my having read that report, we'd both have been left sitting there, wondering.
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Macnas
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If you can find a copy, read "An Irish beast book" by J.S. Fairley.
No better book if you want to know about Irish mammals in particular.
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